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		By: spalleath		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-183</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Whats up Friends...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lately I&#039;ve navigated the internet for a Black Berry type &lt;a 0=&quot;&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; 1=&quot;href=&quot;http://www.frompo.com&quot;&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.frompo.com&quot;&lt;/a&gt; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;wifi internet search  engine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Google &#038; the ordinary Search Engines unfortunately fail to work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m looking for something similar to &lt;a 0=&quot;&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; 1=&quot;href=&quot;http://www.frompo.com&quot;&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.frompo.com&quot;&lt;/a&gt; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;FROMPO.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; - apparently does the job cellular phone search engine - but I thought I&#039;d ask anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What is the best cellphone search engine?&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats up Friends&#8230;</p>
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<p>Lately I&#8217;ve navigated the internet for a Black Berry type <a 0="" target="new" 1="href="http://www.frompo.com""" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.frompo.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.frompo.com</a>&#8220; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;><b>wifi internet search  engine</b>.</p>
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<p>Google &amp; the ordinary Search Engines unfortunately fail to work.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m looking for something similar to <a 0="" target="new" 1="href="http://www.frompo.com""" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.frompo.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.frompo.com</a>&#8220; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;><b>FROMPO.com</b> &#8211; apparently does the job cellular phone search engine &#8211; but I thought I&#8217;d ask anyway.</p>
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<p>What is the best cellphone search engine?</p>
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		By: banter		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-176</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;c&#039;mon! Thailand certainly has some major censorship issues but of course you can name the restaurant on this blog!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;personally i find your last line about having to give things up when you live in a new culture is bullshit. i too once thought this and bowed down to everything thai (&quot;it&#039;s thai culture&quot;), but the fact is nobody is ever in a million years going to think that you are thai and they don&#039;t expect you to act like it. by all means be respectful and observe the local customs but there&#039;s no need to give anything up.. just add what you brought with you to what you&#039;ve got now and you&#039;ll be a better man.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;on a side note, money also talks in thailand so maybe you&#039;re just annoyed cos you have a crap salary?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;cheers :)&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c&#8217;mon! Thailand certainly has some major censorship issues but of course you can name the restaurant on this blog!</p>
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<p>personally i find your last line about having to give things up when you live in a new culture is bullshit. i too once thought this and bowed down to everything thai (&#8220;it&#8217;s thai culture&#8221;), but the fact is nobody is ever in a million years going to think that you are thai and they don&#8217;t expect you to act like it. by all means be respectful and observe the local customs but there&#8217;s no need to give anything up.. just add what you brought with you to what you&#8217;ve got now and you&#8217;ll be a better man.</p>
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<p>on a side note, money also talks in thailand so maybe you&#8217;re just annoyed cos you have a crap salary?</p>
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<p>cheers 🙂</p>
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		By: SiamRick		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-178</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I wonder whether bloggers writing in other European or Asian  languages worry less about the consequences of writing on certain topics or conveying somewhat critical ideas? Just a thought really. They may be less concerned about being found out because their posts are not readily discovered by non-speakers.  That may be what TAoz above is hinting at.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those of us who write in English, i.e., me, definitely practise a bit of self-censorship because the watchers are more likely to read the language.   After all, what is the one thing we all want? Very practically, we want to be able to stay in/visit the kingdom, and retain the ability to choose  our  residence, or want to be able to re-enter and not be provided with a new residence upon arrival.  All of which seems quite possible, given the recent number of ex-pats tried and convicted under the lesse majeste laws. And if you want more proof, re-read FrogBlog&#039;s interview with Thaivisa.com founder George on the inanity of slander/libel “conditions”.  Whoops, did that just slip out?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Last, our western view cannot avoid having the taint of a superiority complex.  Long preamble thankfully removed . . . Thailand might not be Thailand if it overnight became a western capitalist democracy based on English laws. We’ll probably have booked  our flights by noon the next day.  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder whether bloggers writing in other European or Asian  languages worry less about the consequences of writing on certain topics or conveying somewhat critical ideas? Just a thought really. They may be less concerned about being found out because their posts are not readily discovered by non-speakers.  That may be what TAoz above is hinting at.</p>
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<p>Those of us who write in English, i.e., me, definitely practise a bit of self-censorship because the watchers are more likely to read the language.   After all, what is the one thing we all want? Very practically, we want to be able to stay in/visit the kingdom, and retain the ability to choose  our  residence, or want to be able to re-enter and not be provided with a new residence upon arrival.  All of which seems quite possible, given the recent number of ex-pats tried and convicted under the lesse majeste laws. And if you want more proof, re-read FrogBlog&#8217;s interview with Thaivisa.com founder George on the inanity of slander/libel “conditions”.  Whoops, did that just slip out?</p>
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<p>Last, our western view cannot avoid having the taint of a superiority complex.  Long preamble thankfully removed . . . Thailand might not be Thailand if it overnight became a western capitalist democracy based on English laws. We’ll probably have booked  our flights by noon the next day.  😉</p>
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		By: TAoz		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-177</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;What you see is a mojor consequence from the one that mostly being censored here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You might already know(or feel) such thing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I am quite sure that I am the most person who chat about &quot;such topic&quot; in a very unique way. Well, including my fellows too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hope one day we could share for such topic&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PS. Too many &quot;such&quot;?, Please correct them if you feel like I am still your student of ALT&#039;s class, lol&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you see is a mojor consequence from the one that mostly being censored here.</p>
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<p>You might already know(or feel) such thing.</p>
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<p>Anyway, I am quite sure that I am the most person who chat about &#8220;such topic&#8221; in a very unique way. Well, including my fellows too.</p>
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<p>Hope one day we could share for such topic</p>
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<p>PS. Too many &#8220;such&#8221;?, Please correct them if you feel like I am still your student of ALT&#8217;s class, lol</p>
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		By: Douche Bag		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-175</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I meant to post that as &quot;Frodo Douchebaggins.&quot; My bad.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to post that as &#8220;Frodo Douchebaggins.&#8221; My bad.</p>
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		By: Douche Bag		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-174</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;First, I proudly note that the Douche Bag supporters are at Columbia University (the verdigris patina on the lamposts is a dead giveaway).  And if anyone knows douchebags, it&#039;s the Upper West Side of Manhattan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Second, I am curious as to what sorts of websites you find to be censored?  You were a bit oblique on that point...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Seriously though, the self-censorship here is terrible, whether borne of fear of legal reprisal or, often more terrifying, extra-legal reprisal.  And coming from a free speech culture, it&#039;s bad enough to cave to pressure but it really does erode your self-respect when you find yourself caving peremptorily. Plus, I remember well those service problems, so I really do sympathize with your self-censorship plight.  Or should I say...self-ZENSEorship?&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I proudly note that the Douche Bag supporters are at Columbia University (the verdigris patina on the lamposts is a dead giveaway).  And if anyone knows douchebags, it&#8217;s the Upper West Side of Manhattan.</p>
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<p>Second, I am curious as to what sorts of websites you find to be censored?  You were a bit oblique on that point&#8230;</p>
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<p>Seriously though, the self-censorship here is terrible, whether borne of fear of legal reprisal or, often more terrifying, extra-legal reprisal.  And coming from a free speech culture, it&#8217;s bad enough to cave to pressure but it really does erode your self-respect when you find yourself caving peremptorily. Plus, I remember well those service problems, so I really do sympathize with your self-censorship plight.  Or should I say&#8230;self-ZENSEorship?</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-181</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Clearly a subject with a whole lot of maybe&#039;s. Jan, I agree with you that freedom of speech should apply to everyone, but I also believe that there are limits. You are right when you say that freedom of speech &#039;does not mean that laws against hate speech...disappear&#039;, but it also means that other laws remain intact too. Be it Thaksin urging a &#039;people&#039;s revolution&#039; or the US Republican party saying that Barack Obama supports kindergarten-level sex education, a girl lying about how many tattoos she got on her face, freedom of speech is a powerful thing to have, and it shouldn&#039;t be abused.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly a subject with a whole lot of maybe&#8217;s. Jan, I agree with you that freedom of speech should apply to everyone, but I also believe that there are limits. You are right when you say that freedom of speech &#8216;does not mean that laws against hate speech&#8230;disappear&#8217;, but it also means that other laws remain intact too. Be it Thaksin urging a &#8216;people&#8217;s revolution&#8217; or the US Republican party saying that Barack Obama supports kindergarten-level sex education, a girl lying about how many tattoos she got on her face, freedom of speech is a powerful thing to have, and it shouldn&#8217;t be abused.</p>
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		By: Jan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;so freedom of speech for everyone except certain ppl (taksin)?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;how does that make sense?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Who will decide who has freedom of speech and who does not?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;either everyone or noone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;freedom of speech is a right, but it does not mean that laws agains hate speech and personal insulting suddenly disappear.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so freedom of speech for everyone except certain ppl (taksin)?</p>
<p>how does that make sense?</p>
<p>Who will decide who has freedom of speech and who does not?</p>
<p>either everyone or noone.</p>
<p>freedom of speech is a right, but it does not mean that laws agains hate speech and personal insulting suddenly disappear.</p>
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		By: rikker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the post. Add this to the list of topics I&#039;d like to chew the fat with you about sometime. This is a big one for me personally. There&#039;s so much to say that it&#039;s hard to begin, and once you begin it&#039;s hard to stop.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. Add this to the list of topics I&#8217;d like to chew the fat with you about sometime. This is a big one for me personally. There&#8217;s so much to say that it&#8217;s hard to begin, and once you begin it&#8217;s hard to stop.</p>
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		By: Tyrone		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/self-censorship-in-thailand/#comment-182</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hey Greg,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for posting that article it was terribly fascinating!! It reminds me of when I was in Estonia and our guides asked us to talk quieter and not gesture so much (we were at a restaurant / bar). Apparently the place was owned by some Russian Mafia type people and they were there and didn&#039;t look to happy that we were having a good time.  I remember feeling put out that I had to censor my good time and laughing with friends because of someone else&#039;s stupid rules. But it&#039;s better to concede and live to joke another day! Keep up the great writing.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg,</p>
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<p>Thanks for posting that article it was terribly fascinating!! It reminds me of when I was in Estonia and our guides asked us to talk quieter and not gesture so much (we were at a restaurant / bar). Apparently the place was owned by some Russian Mafia type people and they were there and didn&#8217;t look to happy that we were having a good time.  I remember feeling put out that I had to censor my good time and laughing with friends because of someone else&#8217;s stupid rules. But it&#8217;s better to concede and live to joke another day! Keep up the great writing.</p>
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