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		By: Greg		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/the-future-of-bangkoks-mass-transit/#comment-514</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wow, thanks DanishDave, that&#039;s a great map! Let me know if you update it to reflect ongoing construction.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wow, thanks DanishDave, that&#39;s a great map! Let me know if you update it to reflect ongoing construction.</i></p>
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		By: DanishDave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 19:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ahh. one one my favorite Bangkok topics. I actually dig a Google map of what there is today. http://goo.gl/maps/PEYr&lt;br/&gt;The latest &#034;yet another grand transport plan&#034; the very strange BRT has been fun to follow. At one point the whole project just stopped for no apparent reason, I almost thought that it would be another Hopewell. And they have grand plans of more lines. I will not try to predict if they will ever be built, using buses like trams in a very congested city seem very infective. But that the fun thing that there are artifacts left over from previous grand plans like the Hopewell pillars and the 2 bridges with room for rail left over from the Lavalin skytrain. Ok one of them are now used for a single track to the Chon Buri part of BTS. My take on why there are so many plans with incompatible equipment and different agencies that runs the different lines are that it creates a lot of jobs and makes a lot of tea money for different officials.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh. one one my favorite Bangkok topics. I actually dig a Google map of what there is today. <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/PEYr" rel="nofollow ugc">http://goo.gl/maps/PEYr</a><br />The latest &quot;yet another grand transport plan&quot; the very strange BRT has been fun to follow. At one point the whole project just stopped for no apparent reason, I almost thought that it would be another Hopewell. And they have grand plans of more lines. I will not try to predict if they will ever be built, using buses like trams in a very congested city seem very infective. But that the fun thing that there are artifacts left over from previous grand plans like the Hopewell pillars and the 2 bridges with room for rail left over from the Lavalin skytrain. Ok one of them are now used for a single track to the Chon Buri part of BTS. My take on why there are so many plans with incompatible equipment and different agencies that runs the different lines are that it creates a lot of jobs and makes a lot of tea money for different officials.</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
		<link>https://www.gregtodiffer.com/the-future-of-bangkoks-mass-transit/#comment-512</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt; Thanks for the info Hoffman, interesting to get some solid numbers. It&#039;s not just that China is doing more than everyone else, it&#039;s that they&#039;re DESTROYING everyone else. But like you say - I guess it&#039;s not a problem when you pretty much have to do what they say. The real shame here is the US, which should definitely have a high speed rail network (and Canada too, although our piddly population doesn&#039;t really make it financially feasible).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Thanks for the info Hoffman, interesting to get some solid numbers. It&#39;s not just that China is doing more than everyone else, it&#39;s that they&#39;re DESTROYING everyone else. But like you say &#8211; I guess it&#39;s not a problem when you pretty much have to do what they say. The real shame here is the US, which should definitely have a high speed rail network (and Canada too, although our piddly population doesn&#39;t really make it financially feasible).</i></p>
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		By: hoffman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Pie in the sky, most likely. Dont think the plans will make it to reality, at least in current version or like you say, in our life times. Shanghai now has 420 km of track freshly laid to meet demands of Expo (apparently, this makes it the longest in the world [find that hard to believe though in comparison to Tokyo&#039;s]). Now with Expo finished, they are redoubling efforts to go for another surge of development.  And oh, yeah, the hi-speed trains are on track too - new 325 kph Shanghai-Nanjing opened this past July and new 375 kph Shanghai - Hangzhou this past Oct. The Shanghai-Beijing 400 plus kph scheduled to open in 2012 and another Shanghai - Hangzhou mag-lev 475 kph (built with Chinese tech btw) to open around the same time. By 2013 they will have completed 13,000 km of hi speed network - apparently more than the entire world combined. Seems that democracy definately NOT the preferred system for quickly modernizing developing countries....&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pie in the sky, most likely. Dont think the plans will make it to reality, at least in current version or like you say, in our life times. Shanghai now has 420 km of track freshly laid to meet demands of Expo (apparently, this makes it the longest in the world [find that hard to believe though in comparison to Tokyo&#39;s]). Now with Expo finished, they are redoubling efforts to go for another surge of development.  And oh, yeah, the hi-speed trains are on track too &#8211; new 325 kph Shanghai-Nanjing opened this past July and new 375 kph Shanghai &#8211; Hangzhou this past Oct. The Shanghai-Beijing 400 plus kph scheduled to open in 2012 and another Shanghai &#8211; Hangzhou mag-lev 475 kph (built with Chinese tech btw) to open around the same time. By 2013 they will have completed 13,000 km of hi speed network &#8211; apparently more than the entire world combined. Seems that democracy definately NOT the preferred system for quickly modernizing developing countries&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Michael LaPalme		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks!  What a great map. Its crazy to see how much the city has changed over the last decade.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  What a great map. Its crazy to see how much the city has changed over the last decade.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@ Greg: Yeah, the relatives I stay with while I&#039;m in Thailand live in Rangsit and I always look for news about the STR line that would supposedly go up to Rangsit and beyond but it seems like that line isn&#039;t a priority for the master plan yet. And as for your usage of public transportation in tandem to get around, what I usually do when I want to go to Siam for shopping from Rangsit, is ask my uncle for a ride to Future Mall, take one of those dedicated vans into a specific area (Central Lad Prao or Victory Monument), and then take the BTS or MTR/BTS down. When I go back I take the MTR, bus or dedicated van back to Future and then a taxi to my uncle&#039;s house. Needless to say, it&#039;s quite a journey every time (it takes roughly two hours+ total). But I don&#039;t expect mass transit station every block, a short bus ride to and from a close station is enough. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It would be totally awesome if Bangkok would end up like Tokyo. Tokyo is just the mother of all mass transit systems. With its commuter rail (frequent service), metro lines served by two different companies, monorails, private railways, it is very easy to get around and the idea of using any other mode of transportation doesn&#039;t even compute (at least when you&#039;re in the city, otherwise it&#039;s bus+/bike+ combo)&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Greg: Yeah, the relatives I stay with while I&#39;m in Thailand live in Rangsit and I always look for news about the STR line that would supposedly go up to Rangsit and beyond but it seems like that line isn&#39;t a priority for the master plan yet. And as for your usage of public transportation in tandem to get around, what I usually do when I want to go to Siam for shopping from Rangsit, is ask my uncle for a ride to Future Mall, take one of those dedicated vans into a specific area (Central Lad Prao or Victory Monument), and then take the BTS or MTR/BTS down. When I go back I take the MTR, bus or dedicated van back to Future and then a taxi to my uncle&#39;s house. Needless to say, it&#39;s quite a journey every time (it takes roughly two hours+ total). But I don&#39;t expect mass transit station every block, a short bus ride to and from a close station is enough. </p>
<p>It would be totally awesome if Bangkok would end up like Tokyo. Tokyo is just the mother of all mass transit systems. With its commuter rail (frequent service), metro lines served by two different companies, monorails, private railways, it is very easy to get around and the idea of using any other mode of transportation doesn&#39;t even compute (at least when you&#39;re in the city, otherwise it&#39;s bus+/bike+ combo)</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wow! I hope I live to see the day this becomes a reality. That is seriously awesome!&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I hope I live to see the day this becomes a reality. That is seriously awesome!</p>
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		By: Jason Ward		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This will be great when it is eventually done. Hopefully we can buy a house there before the lines are finished. I reckon we have at least 5 years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I want to live near the &#039;Happy Land&#039; station. Sounds awesome!&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be great when it is eventually done. Hopefully we can buy a house there before the lines are finished. I reckon we have at least 5 years.</p>
<p>I want to live near the &#39;Happy Land&#39; station. Sounds awesome!</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt; Peter - yeah, the seas are getting closer... maybe they&#039;ll have to change the name to the MRTSCUBA in another 50 years.&lt;br/&gt;Ben - That&#039;s a good point, I can see how it&#039;s seen as a bit of a novelty, especially if you live out of downtown. I do find though that by using the trains in tandem with other modes of transport can really reduce your travel time; although that&#039;s not the point, you&#039;re supposed to use only one mode. Anyway, it&#039;s a start, and maybe when things are done the mention of rush hour won&#039;t cause people to flinch. :)&lt;br/&gt;Jay - I don&#039;t think you&#039;re too far off. :P&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Peter &#8211; yeah, the seas are getting closer&#8230; maybe they&#39;ll have to change the name to the MRTSCUBA in another 50 years.<br />Ben &#8211; That&#39;s a good point, I can see how it&#39;s seen as a bit of a novelty, especially if you live out of downtown. I do find though that by using the trains in tandem with other modes of transport can really reduce your travel time; although that&#39;s not the point, you&#39;re supposed to use only one mode. Anyway, it&#39;s a start, and maybe when things are done the mention of rush hour won&#39;t cause people to flinch. 🙂<br />Jay &#8211; I don&#39;t think you&#39;re too far off. 😛</i></p>
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		By: Jay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;That would be amazing to have all of those transporation options.  I hope my grandkids can be there for the opening ceremonies.&lt;/p&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be amazing to have all of those transporation options.  I hope my grandkids can be there for the opening ceremonies.</p>
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